A belt grinder designed to keep up with professionals. Please post any info you can on this would be a huge help. Cannot thank you enough for posting this. Dan, Hi, I am a amateur knife maker with a low budget. Interesting idea.Dan. However, I have a little doubt regarding the Tracking Pillar - your drawings don't show exactly where the square cuts should be when assembling with the hinge - should it be covered by the longest face of the hinge or should it be exposed from the hole side?Thanks! How much free spin should the wheels have?Matt, Hi Matt, Tighten the nuts to hold the wheel without slop, and yet the wheel will spin freely for a few turns when spun with your hand. Randy,Yes. Or is this welded to part D in your diagram?2. Precision grinder for sanding application that uses a 2x72 belt. Hi Kevin,The second receiver can be used for a tool rest, light or other attachment you may wish to develop down the road. Cut it to size and grind it. Initially, I made the tool rest attach to the flat platen because it was square and easy. The wheels are holding up well. When I'm completed my grinder I'll send you pictures. I'd love to see it if you have a photo or two. Postage and packaging. Yes, the wheels need bearings. top and bottom. I like the idea of compensating within the tool arm itself. It would be worth a few trials. I hope this helps.Regards,Dan, DanGot the grinder built and it works! I have looked at several and yours is as good or better than most. I would recommend hitting the Walmart, then stopping in at the local food bank. Some cable in and out, a plug and away you go. Drive Parts Direct aims to provide you with a convenient “one stop shop” for all your Power Transmission component requirements. There will be a tolerance range +/- 0.x mm. For my VFD, I have set the ACCELERATION time to 5 seconds. Hi Ed,I have access to the belt side of the grinder so it's not a big effort to press down to release the belt. Asi) Wearable Steampunk Style Spider. Did you have to do the same for the horizontal tool bar as well? This time of year can be tough for some folks and however most of us are blessed to have a lot, some are not so fortunate.Peace,Dan. that is the tracking wheel. How to Build a 30 Kilovolt Wimshurst Machine! I'd love to see a photo. Please ignore my bobo welding job. I just dropped the spring in and put the tracking pillar down to press on it. Happy new year!Sachi. The angle is not critical and some people leave theirs as rectangles. I built one like this but am having trouble with the tracking. And food Is always needed. Skateboard wheels will work fine as ilder wheels. I guess I am wondering because I was considering changing the design to an arm styled tensioner if it took a lot of fiddling around to firm up the tracking pillar in this design. I wonder if you could shim the 0.687" section up to 0.75" and fit a 3/4" bore drive wheel on the motor? You will likely need 240V as most drives over 1/2 horsepower need more jam than the basic 120V can deliver. There will be approximately 0.063" all around the 1.5" pieces when they are in place. Send me a picture if you do. 4.5 out of 5 stars (26) $ 619.00. I am using the same VFD. It didn't seem like my first message was submitted. I know one fellow who used one of these storm door springs(similar to this): http://www.swisco.com/Storm-Door-Chain/pd/Other-Replacement-Storm-Door-Hardware/40-036. I am a novice welder and the front top tube is about 1/8 of an inch off from the back. Answer The cut out is to accommodate the head of the tracking wheel bolt. Get it as soon as Sun, Feb 14. Can I ask why you will buy your next one? Belt Grinder. I know it will be naturally more rigid, but the 0.25" isn't as readily available here, so we were just curious. I learned this from Alaskabearhawk. It takes about 30 pounds to squeeze it about an inch. Hi, Dan-First, a huge Thank you! Ideal for knife making and general fabrication. Copyright 2013 - 2020 D. Comeau Custom Knives. I get my 2x72" belts from Canadian Knifemaker Supply in Sundre, AB. The fan motor will be okay, however not as ideal as a TEFC motor. The tracking wheel can be slightly off on the X and Y axis, but needs to be very close on the Z axis. SUrplus Center has 2 hp TECO VFD's for around $199. Personal choice only given the circumstances. Tilting motor mount for reverse tracking adjustment. If need be you can add a washer or two. Thank you for all the great info on the site. Your entire design was very well thought and simple. Thanks, Ken H>, Hi Ken,The VFD that I have does have an analog output that could be hooked up to a voltmeter and calibrated to show the speed. and a coat of paint. Since the nesting tube is 1.5 in. knives/@/dcknives-dot-com. Still nothing works. Hi Dan,Thanks for all your work to make this an easy build. This provides some sliding action but limits the slop. Related searches. I bought the steel and welded it myself, so the cost of the frame was less than $40, add $5 for paint. This always occurs at the expense of torque, but the finish that can be achieved with a fast moving belt is impressive. If you have thinner wall on the 2" sections, you will need a thicker shim. Your belt grinder should be simple to use, but have all the features you need. I'm interested in having a VFD. I have been looking at idler wheels but they all seem to be about 1" wide. Mine is only single speed, and pretty fast, so I'd like to get a 1.5hp motor and VFD, but my grinder is usable now, and I use it all the time. tube?Thanks! However the there is no keyway in the bushing, so I used a file to cut one in. You can avoid removing the weld seam on the tool arm receivers if you have your lock downs on the same side as the seam. Belt Grinder Drive Wheel 7" Diameter, 24mm Shaft for 2X72 Knife Grinder Balanced. The industrial drive will have more control functions, example could talk to a computer via MODBUS. Building the classic KMG belt grinder. Hi Rick,I recommended a 3600 RPM motor to save costs on the drive wheel. Anyway, I just recently came across your website and all I can say is "Brilliant." I started mine with 1/4"x 2" tubing and 3/16"x 1.5" for the inside tubes. I am having a problem getting .250 thickness locally, and the shipping is a monster. Some guys stick the VFDs on the wall up and away from the grinder to reduce the steel dust from getting in. It looks to me like your angle iron slots would prevent the whole assembly from rotating very far. 40 pipe welded on piece C.RegardsReinier, Hi Reiner,The small pipe is for a belt release lever can be added on after you paint, but having it there beforehand is ideal. Remember to blow it out with compressed air or if you can enclose it a little to keep the dust out as best as possible. I computed it to be about the same to house an industrial VFD in an enclosure with fan, terminal blocks, remote control as buying a fully enclosed version. You are welcome. Sorry we got two questions as I screen them to prevent spammers from posting garbage. Get the best deals for 2x72 belt grinder chassis at eBay.com. 4.8 out of 5 stars 13. If I weld them on the heads will make the motor sit above the plate. These are pretty much plug and play. See more ideas about belt grinder, grinder, knife grinder. Hi i was looking for good ideas to make my grinder and i just found the best and easy ones thancks great job nothing complex on it you just make my day thanck you bery much, thaks , i was looking for good ideas for building my grinder and i just found the best ones, glad i found your page , seems easy i will try it it wont be a clone but something close i hope ,, thanks againg keep up the good work, Yes, exactly. I am using a treadmill motor that I turned a bushing for that is reverse threaded and turns the shaft into a 3/4 inch shaft. I used some strips from a plastic oil jug as shims. "If the belt is moving laterally, there are a couple of things to check. I haven't found one as of yet, however.Thanks! use a 4 inch Square tubing Cut it in a Angle, Make two holes on each side. More expensive VFDs have remote displays that plug into the VFD proper, but there's extra cost in the displays too. Cheers :), Nick, please email me. If I drill holes and put bolts all the way through, the heads will be on the bottom and keep the plate from sitting flat on the table. It's very important to ensure the seam is on the left (not the belt side). On washer here or there can compensate for construction issues, slight out of square etc.For me having a crowned drive wheel and a crowned tracking wheel meant having to tweak the motor until the belt was running nice and straight. Sackorange 4 PCS 2 x 72 Inch Metal Grinding Zirconia Sanding Belt for Polished Steel, Stainless Steel, Cast Iron, Carbon Steel, etc, (2 X 72 Inch) Thanks for the reply. I guess I need to pack more until it still slides but has no lateral movement.Thank you for sharing your ideas.Paul (UK), Hi Paul,I used some strips from an oil jug. I would recommend you contact Terry at: http://www.sahtudesigns.com/products/tdm-basic-grinder Cheers,Dan. Hi Dan,This is one simple design. I'm not making knives, but just a good shop grinder, that I can make lots of various attachments for. I've been grinding for almost a month now and loving it. Keep turning out great stuff!I do have a question I was hoping you might be able to help with. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. That makes the most sense. We'll see, I think that purchase will come next month, use the extra money thin month to pick up steel and wheels. Tensioner idler wheels removed as a matter of course when replacing automotive timing belts are a great source of very high quality, very high speed capableidler wheel.They come in many dimensions and are give-always at most auto repair shops. Release the 8 ball the spring pushes up and tensions the belt. I have learned a lot. I have made a wheel from MDF to fit a pump motor with a weird shaft. I did add some to the vertical tensioning/tracking pillar on the right and rear faces. ;-)Dan, Website changed to: http://www.2x72grinders.com/post?id=8248245. I did three potential tool holder slots (I wanted to option for a low tool rest) and the grinder works well. Then the only play to be concerned with is the gap on the front and back. Fits most base mount motors with Nema 56, 56H, or 145T frame sizes. Mine is a bit loose and tends to cant to one side when tightened. Mine was about 1/8" total clearance (or 1/16" on each face). i just noticed you pretty much answered this directly above my comment, sorry. However, tempering can be done with any fire. Then I added some graphite powder to make it slide easier. You can find the VFDs reasonably cheap on Ebay. The belt should make a "toooong" sound like a bass guitar string when plucked. Currently only have one speed got it going for the first time over eh weekend and i have a problem the belt runs straight off the side when its running across all the wheel no adjustment to the tracking wheel makes a difference. 99. Thanks!Dan. CNC 3018 Router and Laser Kit- Part 4 Dry Moly Lub... Blog — Haburn Knives - Handmade Stainless & Carbon Steel Knives and Tools. I am electrically inclined and like the flexibility of making my own, some guys just want to hook up and go. The idea was to allow for adjustment for when using a work rest. FREE Shipping by Amazon. It acts like a pivot point. Ta da!Cheers,Dan, I don't think it matters if the drive wheel is up or down on the back. I used an old motor from a Harbor Freight table saw, and made a 5.1 inch wooden drive wheel. spring. Dan. I use it for my adjustable tool rest. Hi Eric,A 12 volt power supply would be fine. Try adjusting the position of the motor. can you add a bill of material plus the cut lengths required? Check out our guide to Milling Machine Surface Finish Tips for some ideas. Usually motors will have a 5/8" or 3/4" keyed shaft. If your vertical receiver is not perfectly square on the Z axis you can "tweak" this design with the plastic shims.It's really a set and forget thing. It goes from the 6 inch wheel and up and all around the system see pictures. I used 2" wide idlers.Dan. Place the Metal like this….. and Weld it in to place Each Piece is 13 inches long Square tubing 2X2 And 4mm thick. They are incredible and all of the wheels including drive, tension, and two idlers were 106.00. Thanks. Some VFDs will display Hz, but that's not the same as RPM as there is slip and two pole motors run twice the speed of four pole motors at a given frequency.I simply used an $8 automotive tachometer from eBay and pulsed it with a magnet and Hall effect IC. You will have to check his page on eBay and see what he has for sale.Dan. I had to shim the right side of the motor with some washers to "point" it at the tracking wheel. Also, if I'm buying the spring from a shop, what do I tell them? We have been on the market for about 1 year and just released our newest version. Also, how many hours did it take to build? I bought the wheel set which included the two 2" flat wheels for the platen. That allows you to focus more time on developing your skill instead of fighting with your tools. Cheers! A couple yr ago I used an Arduino chip to read input from a Hall sensor for RPM on a lathe - using a 2 line LCD I was able to add a rotary encoder to enter work diameter to give tool speed on the tool. Weld it in place and then you will be able to place the handles that hold the metal tubing in place so nothing moves or vibrates, On Top of the 17 inch pice make a tilting Tracking wheel holder. The part I looked up was a 5 hp which is a several times more power than required for a 2" x 72" belt grinder. Thanks, will just have to experiment around a bit. Like an old-school reed relay the magnet opens and closes the circuit each revolution of the wheel. And what kind?So far I have spent $31 for steel. Starting to weld it up on monday. 1 year ago. The flat platen is very hard compared to a contact wheel. The shaft is 3/4" for about the first inch (leaving the motor) and then it goes to .687" for the next inch and a half. Any hints or am I worrying to much? Lol. Having slightly undersized mounting bolts means you can rotate the motor a little bit. Hi Danny,Correct. Norton Blaze 2X72 24 Grit Belt Sander Grinder Sharpening Sanding Grinding Belts Orange. The rule of thumb is to engage as much threads as the bolt diameter. I'll see if I can get him to provide some details and I'll post it here.Thanks for your input.Dan. You can also find the details on Drive Parts Direct, at the Toothed Belts. If your supply is 50 Hz, then you can up the max a little more to gain some extra speed. The 4700 ohm resistors are 1) a pull-up for the hall effect IC and 2) current limiting for the LEDs. hopefully by the end of the month I can start on it. Is there a way to make this work for the drive wheel?Thanks! Hi Tommy,The blue drive wheel is actually a 4" caster that I bought from an industrial supply place. All works but having problems getting rid of the slop in the vertical sliding pillar even though packed out. I have a shopsmith mk5 lathe that I plan on using this design for, except it will be mounted to the lathe on removable platform. Question I learned while building this. I think the problem then is my drive wheel. Thank you very much for the reply. Thanks in Advance. A usable knife would be in the Rockwell C 53 to 58 range. But I have a problem translating a part of the text into Dutch, at least i don't understand what you mean by: "I put a backing piece of 1/4" plate behind the angle to step it away from the plate. Maybe I can make a few bucks. I did not know that VFD's could power a 3 phase motor on single phase. I chose a 24 volt power supply because they are common and I had one lying around. Wanted to make sure I got one the right diameter and length. Thanks, If my math is correct 0.125" over 12" is 1% or 3.6°. You will want a fairly large drive wheel, at least 5" in diameter to get the belt speed in a good range. Was yours a tighter fit, or do you have some play in the tracking pillar and it just doesn't matter?ThanksRandy. What is the pipe on the back of part C for? Can be used for knife making, fabrication, woodworking, metalworking, tool sharpening, making tools, and … Chris uses slightly different materials, but his videos are great for showing the basic construction of his version of the BG-272. Arguably the best selling, best quality, best value for money & most popular grinder on the market with an unparalleled range of Belt tracks stable, cannot deflect the motor or the body of the grinder at all now. It doesn't have to be super accurate to run fairly true. Do you have any idea if the ebay seller still have some to sell? It's domed already and works great for under $30. That's an easy way to pay it forward. A little hard on the power bill but will work.A preferred motor would be Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled (TEFC) as steel dust from grinding will make its way into the motor and cause premature failure. 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Buy 2x72 Belt Grinder Frame Only from only $42.80 2x72 Belt Grinder Frame Only. Most are between 2" and 2-1/4" wide. It was amazingly easy and I learned a new skill, Welding while I was at it. As I couldn't find a metric carriage bolt I used a regular hex head bolt. My question is what size drive wheel do you think I should get for a build like this. So into the hydraulic press and it slid right in nice and tight. Belt Grinder 2x72 Wheel Set Knife Grinder 4" Drive 5/8" bore 4" Track 2" Idler (4,5/8-4 - 2) 5.0 out of 5 stars 3. What is the lower horizontal tube (frame member B) for? Our products are manufactured in USA. A KBAC will certainly save you time; maybe a break-even in terms of money. The speed is varied be changing the voltage. I would think some 20 thou alum and JB weld would do the trick. Hi Eric,2.5 A is about 1/3 horsepower and it too small for a belt grinder. Just be careful not to over-tighten and strip the threads out.Dan, Hi guys looking at making this but looking at steel supplies wall thickness is all in swg or mm what do I need is rather ask than get the wrong stuff, I am pretty sure Craig Hamilton used 50 mm x 4 mm wall for the receivers and 40 mm x 4 mm for the tool arms and tension pillar. That's 2 mm clearance. The tensioning pillar pushes on the spring to put tension on the belt. Recommended 30 to 40 lbs (15 to 20 kg) spring. I popped the bearings out and pressed a bushing with a 7/8" inside diameter and broached a keyway. Does the VFD Require a 24vdc power supply or could I use a 12vdc? An example of a 2 hp industrial drive is a TECO L510 or a lower end (I used this one in my Sayber) Huanyang VFD.As for the glass filled nylon Lightning wheels, I think they are pretty good value. 2x72" belt grinder for making custom knives, woodworking, or metal fabrication. What is your belt tension? HiThe belts available in my city are 50*2000mm, or like 2x78 Can you suggest any modifications so I might be able to use those? This one goes sideways instead of just up. Thinking about just ordering the OBM D-backing plate with platen, both idler wheels, then a drive and tracking wheel. knives at dcknives dot com.Cheers!Dan. I have a spring in the tension arm and does what it is supposed to. RISE 2x72 DIY Belt Grinder Kit. Would you have a problem with me making some of these to sell? I think I have something on file. A little bit shorter or longer is okay as you can slide the tool arm in and out of the receiver to compensate for variations in the spring. Hi Rick, I've heard all sorts of springs being used. The block in the lower left is the fuse holders and a few terminal blocks. Buy the best and latest belt grinder 2x72 on banggood.com offer the quality belt grinder 2x72 on sale with worldwide free shipping. I have the exact setting vfd do I have any advice for some of the advance settingsCheersCraig, Hi Craig,The belt seams will "clack", especially with J weight belts. The whole rest is only available in 2D. Was wondering if you had a source or more detail on the 30 Lb. Instead of .188 wall tubing I used .25 (1/4") and filed the weld seams. I am new to this and have several question:1. Home › RISE 2x72 DIY Belt Grinder Kit. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Thanks for the detailed info. How did you line up the wheels to get the initial tracking straight? I use D3 Tool steel, Hi Varun,The quench in oil hardens the steel. The MAX FREQUENCY setting I set to 80 Hz as I have a 2 pole motor and 4600 RPM is pretty good for a top speed. Other than that I think it might be a simple and relatively cheap solution to the big wheel. This brush can greatly reduce static buildup on the belt and shocks to the operator. And a Flat 3 inches Wide by 5mm thick and 8 Inches long .. All that is missing is the Actual Belt, 2X72 Inches. 4 years ago, http://dcknives.blogspot.ca/p/2-x-72-belt-grinder.html?m=1 very simlare build has everything you need the cominde 2 diys are nice. Hi,The drive wheel needs to be set to the drive shaft (or motor shaft) with a section of key stock and the setscrew. Thanks, Dave, Hi Dave, Yes, the typical industrial VFD is open to the environment which means dust and moisture can get into the electronics. Works great! What about using a step pulley arrangement to give me two speeds. All I need now is a dust bucket and water pot. Hi there, thanks for the awesome tutorial. The spring I used was 3/4" diameter x 4" and compresses about an inch with a 30 pound load. I'm in the planning phase of building my own Belt Grinder and the later version would be much more convenient in my situation... Dan,Thanks for providing such detail on how to construct a 2X72 grinder. Will this be an issue with tracking or can this fixed with shimming the wheels? This seems to be a reasonable compromise, but not quite a compact solution like I wanted. I had an idea to make a curved platen for hollow grinding without the big wheel. For the idler wheels, I used flat washers that are similar outside diameter to the inner race, but not too large as to contact the outer race of the bearings.Hope this helps,Dan. Learn about us and the products we offer on our website. Good luck!DAn, I've got a 1.5hp 3ph motor at 1750rpm. I cut strips about 1" and lubricated with graphite. When using a 1.5" OD tool arm, this will give you 0.125" total clearance. If the arm tilts to the right (clockwise) when tightening, add a shim to the top left of the tool arm. If you know the drive wheel size, you can better choose the motor. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving bud. So if you don't have a small wheel set, then go for a direct drive fixed speed setup that generates adequate belt speed. Quick question on steel, I have found some 2X2X3/16" locally, the decimal equivalent to 0.188, well 0.1875 to be exact. You could also tack weld the heads down to the base and slide the washer over them at that point. I built a 2x72 based on your design, and it rocks! If trying a different belt solves the problem, then you've nailed it. With that said, there are many factors that come into play when determining the best belt speed such as: The Material you are grinding such as Metal, Wood, Leather, etc; The grit of the belt you are using. Thank you kindly. Can also be used as a fabrication tool, woodworking tool, metal grinder, wood sander, knife grinder, sander, and tool sharpener. I got the wheels from Oregon Blade Maker's eBay store. I have enjoyed watching the build and plan to do my own soon. I just finish bilding one and I have a small problem...when I put pressure on the belt (with a blade ), this one moves to the right for about 3/16 of a inch. What is the screw welded to part C used for? Could you send me a propper CAD file of the wheels? on Step 9. I have tried many different configurations of spacers to even moving the motor mounts to different angles to the main frame. It looks like the variable speed drive is going to add quite a bit to my cost. Makers and knife making enthusiest will love the versitility it provides by offering two grinder … I think that should be enough.I have a question about your platen. Seems like it would also save a lot of room, time and money. I know a guy who added a small cam like lever that pulls down on with little effort. Some shims or washers may be required to get the drive wheel to "tilted" correctly. With the motor controller they will run in 6000 + RPM range. If I could see a photo of it I could better say. You're not only a source of information, you're also a source of inspiration and confidence.Your grinder design is adamant to say "use 2 in. for giving your knowledge so generously. Here is the one I am building at about 90% using the information you provided along with some extensive research. I like the way some grinders use a lever arm but that won't work for ours. I didn't follow the instructions like I should have and I need to make some "springs" to push the inner tubes to the sides of the outer tubes. Is there any way you could post a drawing and/or complete parts list for the grinder and the two attachments. Would you be willing to build another one? The string should point in a line down to the straight edge. I have a motor in which the drive shaft is stepped down in size and not slotted. 2) The tension on the belt should be sufficient to hold the tracking. The spring should be about 15 kg or 30 to 40 lbs force. OD the 0.125 wall tube makes intuitive sense... do you specify 0.188 wall to accommodate the weld seam inside the 2 in. Otherwise, you can use two stepped sheaves and a V belt to vary the speed.The switch is likely rated for 250 V, but the ratings for horsepower are 230 V (typical motor spec. And a Flat 3 inches Wide by 5mm thick and 8 Inches long .. All that is missing is the Actual Belt, 2X72 Inches. Don't you need 2" wide wheels to match the 2" wide belt? Hi Dan, Thank you for sharing this tutorial. My wife got me a Delta 6inch 2.5 amp variable speed benchtop grinder, would I be wasting my effort in trying to make one side into a belt sander? However, as it's only acting as a clamp to lock the platen, then 3/16" will work fine. (the platen arm, etc). I am a machinist not an electrician, sorry if these seem like pretty elementary questions. However it does come with a few trade-offs. Including dimensions and building the tool arms. Hi Chase, The distance from the pillar to the centre of the wheel is 4". I will work on it some more. I live in Europe and can't find a place to buy the wheels from. However, I would recommend removing the weld seam from the vertical receiver, or add two bolts (same idea as the tool lockdowns) and snug them against the pillar then back them off until the pillar slides up and down easily. This created a fairly tight fit. You mention using 0.25" wall thickness. but the math looks good for either of these options. Dan. Due to workload and parts availability, I would be unable to make another grinder like this. Hi Doug,The 0.25" wall is recommended as there is one tapped hole for a 1/4" bolt. Otherwise the spring might go inside of it. Dan. It can be done. Any clue what I've done wrong? Comes with whats in first photo . We are always willing to help people with motor and VFD setups. 4" aluminum tracking wheel on fully assembled tension arm I lived in the tropics for a while and no-one had ovens. knives @ dcknives.comDan.
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