Yabuzukahonmachi Nittagun Gunmaken 379-2301 Identify Deadly Thailand Snakes In Under 5 Minutes!" A few that we found were close to 2 meters so they can get large. English name: Tai-yong Keelback (aka: “Boulenger’s Keelback”) Scientific name: Hebius boulengeri Thai name: งูลายสาบตะวันออก (Ngu Lai-saap Tawan Ook) Description: To 88cm. I will let you have it when I have updated. Have also had two oriental rat snakes in the gardens, one was gone pretty swiftly but the other which was at least 2 metres in length, wrist thick was killed and been told was to be cooked ( joking / not joking I have no idea ). FYI - Thailand has over 200 snake species. Some (all?) Binomial name: Fowlea piscator, Johann Gottlob Theaenus Schneider, 1799. Masterful and very fast climbers! Order: Squamata Not as dramatic as a cobra. A slender snake with a long head. Thank you for your fantastic useful site. Danger to humans: Is a rear-fanged snake but its venom properties and potential danger are unknown. These snakes have a mild venom that doesn’t generally affect humans at all. I was holding it. (Japan Snake Institute, Hon-machi, Yabuzuka, Nitta-gun, Gunma-ken, Japan) V.1- 1969- Volume(issue). Thanks for you help! I just used your website to identify a red necked keel back found in the garden here in Krabi. This is before I understood that bites could have serious complications – even death. Loads of these fellas around where I live in Laos. This little snake, the size of my index finger, bit my cat (somewhere in the mouth area) who was trying to tease it. If you have one, do not free-handle it. Snake species in Thailand. Hahaha! That would be a new one on me though, kings are almost exclusively snake eaters. March. English name: Deschauensee’s Keelback (aka: “Northern Keelback”) Scientific name: Hebius deschauenseei Thai name: งูลายสาบท้องสามขีด (Ngu Lai-saap Thong Saam Khid) Description: To 48cm. Very pretty and lightning fast. In India, the snake is found up to an altitude of 2, 000 m. Found one this morning under the doormat outside my house, in Khao Lak. Why would they be sleeping together? India? IUCN includes Taiwan in the range of F. flavipunctatus, but excludes India, Malaysia, and Indonesia. Unless another is found! This red neck killer back snakes; Not aggressive but still handled with respect and we relocated to remote areas for release. There are a great number of green snakes in Thailand, including the whip snakes (Ahaetulla species), Golden Tree Snake, Red-tailed Green Rat Snake (also called Green Mountain Racer), Green Keelback, Green Cat Snake, and a number of green pit vipers. But I have to say he did frighten me also many more or less harmless speckled gliding tree snakes here as well. In one case the snake was left to bite for two entire minutes before removing it from a finger. Seen many in my garden in Chiang Mai, the juvenile was very cute, didn’t realize it was venomous, Packed in a bag, but it managed to escape. Thailand Snakes, Snakebite, Herping, Tours, Snake Traps, International Reptile Internships Available, First Aid for King Cobra, Krait, Corals, Keelbacks, Động vật độc: nguy cơ và phòng tránh – Để gió cuốn đi, https://www.thailandsnakes.com/venomous/rear-fanged/red-necked-keelback-venomous-mildly-dangerous/. The Red-necked Keelback is widely distributed in Southeast Asia, occurring in Burma, Thailand, Indochina (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) and Peninsular Malaysia, and the islands of Sumatra, Borneo and Java. Seems possible that when a Rhabdophis has been irritated/threatened by a potential predator (e.g. 3) can shrink its body to pass through a very small hole. Thanks for the update Ivor – lots of snakes around up there. So, was my cat poisoned by the redneck or the toad? Thailand Snakes, Snakebite, Herping, Tours, Snake Traps, International Reptile Internships Available, First Aid for King Cobra, Krait, Corals, Keelbacks, https://www.thailandsnakes.com/venomous/rear-fanged/red-necked-keelback-venomous-mildly-dangerous/. Japan Snake Institute It got away from them once, and headed right back into an adjacent water pond. The yellow-spotted keelback (Fowlea flavipunctatus) is a species of colubrid snake found in India,Myanmar, Thailand, China, West Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia (Sumatra, Java, and Kalimantan) Its type locality is: Island of Hong Kong and Canton River?, China. Severe envenomation is possible Buff Striped Keelback – Amphiesma stolatum Checkered Keelback – Xenochrophis piscator Quite amazing, if true, right? Hope to see one soon. Active Time? i have also caught few of them and some of them really secreted venom from their back…. as he was over 2 meters and did not seem to happy to be disturbed. http://www.thailandsnakes.com This was found in southern Thailand. They are stunning. In Japan they make limited amounts of antivenin, but it is specifically for their in-country use. It was previously thought these snakes were harmless. Cobras, Kraits, Vipers, Corals, Rat Snakes, Tree Snakes, Whip Snakes, Pipe Snakes, Kukris, Pythons, and more. Very docile. Great site. Thanks. This snake is terrestrial – ground-based, and is very common in Phuket, Thailand and Phang Nga, and across much of Thailand. there are red necked keelbacked snakes all around Chiang Khan, Loei. The species is considered indeterminate in Singapore. Venom Toxicity: LD50 is 1.29 mg/kg for intravenous injection (source). Nihon Hebizoku Gakujutsu Kenkyujo cobra about to take on a swollen poison toad. Another study in Japan ranked the venom as having an LD50 of 1.25 mg/kg for intravenous injection. English name: Blue-necked Keelback (aka: “Blueneck Keelback”, “Blue-necked Water Snake”) Scientific name: Rhabdophis rhodomelas (formerly Macropisthodon rhodomelas) Thai name: งูรังแหหลังศร (Ngu Rang Hae Lang Sorn) Description: To 75cm long.Orangish-brown to pinkish-brown with a dark brown or black dorsal stripe bordered by light dots. I decided to look it up and came across your website only to learn it’s a pretty venemous snake!! I feel a bit bad about it. 2) can climb in straight hills easily Recently a small boy of 12 years old was bitten by one he was keeping as a pet in Phuket, Thailand and he is currently being treated (11/5/10). Notes: These snakes are commonly found near water, lakes, ponds, and in gardens. That is VERY venomous. Red Necked Keelback – Venomous – Dangerous Vern dangerous Thailand snake, genus Rhabdophis, nuchal glands, poisonous, poisonous snake, red necked keelback, Rhabdophis subminiatus, Thailand snake, Thailand venomous, Venomous A beautiful snake, usually under 1 meter, not very aggressive. The other day when out walking I came across a King Update: The 12 year old boy bitten by the Rhabdophis subminiatus was treated for 2 weeks of intensive care, and released. Snake-c@sunfield.ne.jp I didn’t know they are so venomous – always thought they are only mildly so (enough to kill a frog or small rat). Thanks for this site, it’s really informative! Taiwan also – so many snakes! The king cobra eating a toad was most likely the Ptyas carinatus or Ptyas mucosus – both big rat snakes that resembled the king cobra. Speckle-bellied keelback. Range: Central Vietnam, northern Cambodia, Laos, and northern/eastern Thailand. Cheers, Vern. have to be carful with them. We have a Durian farm and I have seen these guys often. of the rat snakes are given some level of protection from being killed in Thailand, and yet locals kill them the most because they’re plentiful and easily seen. Sounds like a juvenile (hatchling) red-necked keelback snake (R. subminiatus). Nice colors. The specklebelly keelback (Rhabdophis chrysargos) is a species of colubrid snake found in southeast Asia. www.sunfield.ne.jp/~snake-c/ I’ve found them sleeping around 1 foot off the ground in bushes. Red-necked Keelbacks (Rhabdophis subminiatus) are one of the few snakes that are venomous, but also poisonous. Interesting… I’d guess the cat was toad-licking. If you think it looks similar to a Yellow-spotted Keelback, then I would think a Red-tailed Green Rat Snake might be a likely bet. Here's our latest book with detailed information on Thailand's 35 Deadly Snakes. Also if im ever in a quiz program, and asked how many poisonous snakes there are, I can now say, only one!! They do take monitors too – bigger ones. Checkered Keelback Pictures Gallery That’s really interesting – thanks for the story. Groundwater’s Keelback has yellow lip, yellow V-shaped marks that connect on the back of the neck, 17 midbody scale rows, 120-134 subcaudals and an entire anal. Seems to be more and more snakes in the estate, but maybe I just can see them better now. She’s two years old and weighs 4 kgs. it then suffered spasm on its legs and it tumbled forward when it she was trying to walk. They don’t exist. A poison can also be absorbed indirectly, e.g., by touch or through the digestive system. The LD50 on this snake for intravenous was stated to be 1.29 mg/kg. Reply. Thailand needs a site in Thai language that details what is legal, what isn’t, what is dangerous, what isn’t. The buff striped keelback (Amphiesma stolatum) is a species of nonvenomous colubrid snake found across Asia.It is the sole species of genus Amphiesma.It is a typically nonaggressive snake that feeds on frogs and toads.It belongs to the subfamily Natricinae, and is closely related to water snakes and grass snakes.It resembles an Asian version of the American garter snake. Habitat/behaviour: The Green Keelback is a snake which lives on the ground and is active in the morning and at twilight. I suppose I should say thank you for identifying the snake for me and accept my regrets on killing it. While both venom and poison are toxins, a venom requires direct delivery, for instance subcutaneously through a snake bite, but can be ingested without harm. ), if the predator then makes an move that triggers a defensive action (strike) by the snake, if some venom has been already released inside the snake’s mouth, any puncture or scratch made by the front teeth may be contaminated by a small amount of venom. I have some pictures in my website, its being updated when the heat eases up a bit and I don’t drip buckets updating. Recently (mid-June) I found a DOR juvenile very recently hatched, so like most snakes in Thailand the time around June is when they are hatching out. Yeah, a lot of snakes in Hong Kong – surprising to me because it is so built-up. These snakes are rear-fanged and need to bite and hold on, or, repeatedly bite to have any effect on humans. Would be eaten by civets, larger snakes and monitors. This snake has been sold to a snake reserve in Japan. Sadly, I killed one yesterday. In Thailand we also have the diurnal Rhabdophis nigrocinctus, and Rhabdophis chrysargos, both of which may be able to inflict a medically significant bite if given the opportunity. Just now I have rescued one from my store room. You can have a look at one I caught here – https://www.thailandsnakes.com/venomous/rear-fanged/red-necked-keelback-venomous-mildly-dangerous/. Cheers man! Lift their head and neck off the ground 4-5 inches. He was bitten multiple times, the 2nd bite lasting over 20 seconds. Do you think cats can scare them away or they will just attack if the cat tries to play with it. #4 – can anything tolerate kerosene? This is not all that common unless very provoked. R. subminiatus has a greenish hue with red and yellow regions near the head. This is one of the few snakes that is actually venomous and poisonous. ©2009 ThailandSnakes.com. I know personally of two instances where a child was bitten for well over 20 seconds, and a man was bitten for about a minute. Rhabdophis flaviceps, the orangeneck keelback, orange-lipped keelback, or yellow-headed keelback, is a species of snake in the family Colubridae. see quite a few species around these parts, vipers, cobras sometimes, many rear fanged snakes as well. Is the poison of the toad, the same as the redneck, that he excretes from his neck? Thailand Keelbacks Blue-necked Keelback – Macropisthodon rhodomelas. These snakes do traverse across the ground but quickly find a tree when threatened. Snake posts by Vern Lovic. They’ll definitely avoid cats – kittens, whatever is bigger than them and that messes with them. That is about the same rating as the very deadly “Banded Krait (Bungarus fasciatus)”. I’d guess your cat can now be considered a toad licker for sure. Did the keelback have bite marks all over it from the cat? Will also keep you posted of anything I hear about in the village. Suborder: Serpentes Scary snakes because yeah, they are so beautiful and usually quite calm and non-bitey. One WHO (World Health Organization) publication about the management of venomous snake bites in Southeast Asia mentions the antivenin for Rhabdophis tigrinus in Japan as having some effect on the venom of R. subminiatus. Our work is not pure scientific but we try to verify the data we collect as much we can. Yes, the red-necked keelbacks are fast, but always to get away. While I went off to get the camera my wife stayed and watched it. The statement about the length and weight is sure to be inaccurate and probably heavily exaggerated. 3318 Yunoiri Yabuzuka At least that’s what I’ve read. Some kept them as pets and were bitten. Unless you’re positive. We found several of these snakes during construction of our zip line inside Angkor Wat Park . I administered the shot subcutaneously. Orangeneck keelback. The checkered keelback or Asiatic water snake (Xenochrophis piscator) is a common species of nonvenomous snake found in Asia. So I told her to take care of the cat, that was foaming at the mouth, and I would find the snake. Was the redneck going to try and eat the toad, and decided it was too big, or what? I don’t know about other parts of the state or country but in August September months it is seen the most.Even it entered into my room two months back. The buff striped keelback is found throughout South and Southeast Asia. Just seen a Red Neck Keelback snake around Pai, trying to hide in some long grass tried to scare it away, but it seemed very friendly and wouldn’t go away, it eventualy disappeared into the undergrowth very beautiful snake though. The coloration of the juvenile is quite different from adults as you can see in the photo and video below. Also effective against rednecked keelback (R. subminiatus venom). Cheers! They make lahp or other meals from it. The red-necked keelback (Rhabdophis subminiatus) is a species of venomous snake in the family Colubridae. The one one thing is they can move very fast and so I guess you Phylum: Chordata Dangerous though! Fortunately the cat survived. They mainly feed on frogs and fish. a cat) for a prolonged period of time, the defenses of the snake may include release of venom down the grooves of the rear teeth. Found in a range of areas, usually fairly close to water. Only people (and animals) that get bit for a lengthy time seem to be envenomated and have problems. Oriental Whip Snakes. Pretty little things all the same. No, I really didnt examine the snake, but of course should have. Treat it like you would a pit viper or a cobra. That one isn’t likely to kill anybody or any cat, but if it got a good bite and held on, it’s possible. Defensive Behavior: Spread out the neck slightly to make themselves appear bigger. I don’t know what the poison consists of on the redneck keelback’s neck… but it likely closely resembles that of the toad. I often pick them up and take them away from the house or where the kids are playing but I’ll now be much more careful. A very common tree snake across Thailand, and their favorite food appears to be Tokay Geckos (Gekko gecko), so you may see one at your home. Recently a friend had one in his swimming pool in Krabi town, southern Thailand. I was in Khao Lak in 2012 and saw one of these in the grounds of the place we were staying, about an hour after dark, under lights on a footpath. We are in the mountainous area of Kampot. I’m still glad to have saved it but won’t be doing that again. Would love your thoughts, please comment. There is NO ANTIVENIN available yet for these snakes in Thailand. Description . Here is an image of the snake expressing poison from the nuchal glands. If need be I bag em up and take them to forest if i can get them to cooperate. (Page Updated: 1 May 2019) Speckle-belly keelback (Rhabdophis chrysargos), Thailand tropical Keelback Snake, portait, Malaysia ... Black-striped keelback snake (Rhabdophis nigrocinctus) moving among leaf litter of forest floor, Xishuangbanna National Nature Reserve, Yunnan Province, China. Never saw one climb anything with speed, certainly not a vertical hill if that’s what you’re saying. They don’t bother people at all – but so many people kill them – I see Thais do it all the time… sad to see it. A cat which we’d seen several times around the place was showing a great deal of interest in it. Amateur herpetologist roaming about Thailand on field herping tours and events to find king cobras, kraits, vipers, corals, keelbacks, and other snakes native to Thailand. Didn’t seem like the snake got a good grip on the cat so hopefully it didn’t get a chance to work in a lot of venom, but we didn’t see the cat again – we left the next day. Its range extends from Pakistan (Sindh) to Sri Lanka, Philippines, India (including the Andaman Islands), Bangladesh, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia (Borneo, Sabah), Taiwan and China (Hainan, Hong Kong, Fujian, Jiangxi). Just back from a trip down in Chumphon. Scroll down that page and check out the video. As a precaution, any snake in the Rhabdophis genus should be treated with extreme caution. "Is That Snake In Your House Dangerous? Food: Frogs, poisonous toads, and fish. Thanks for your quick reply, Im sure I will have more questions later. Habitat / Range: Thailand and Southeast Asia. […] Red Necked Keelback – Venomous – Dangerous – https://www.thailandsnakes.com/venomous/rear-fanged/red-necked-keelback-venomous-mildly-dangerous/ […], Probably in Tripura we called it Zinglapura Saap. Not sure which snake you mean. Click for article. Been in Phon Phisai for 3 years now with my partner. hehe. My cat immediately foamed at the mouth which lasted for about 15 minutes. I often see them in low vegetation or among stacked timber with an unfortunate frog in their mouth – always hear the frog moaning first! Fast through the grass. Vern Thailand colubrids, thailand keelback, Thailand non venomous snakes, Thailand snakes, Xenochrophis flavipunctatus Two of my friends went out and caught what we think is a common keelback (Xenochrophis flavipunctatus) snake in a pond. But the good news is – there are PLENTY of them – they seem to be everywhere. Cobras, Kraits, Vipers, Corals, Rat Snakes, Tree Snakes, Whip Snakes, Pipe Snakes, Kukris, Pythons, and more. They’ve been doing it since day 1 – won’t stop now. Appreciate your website. Binomial name: Rhabdophis flaviceps, André Marie Constant Duméril, Gabriel Bibron & Auguste Duméril, 1854. Do not play with these snakes. Scroll down for information about antivenin manufactured in Japan that may have some positive effect. Neither wanted to hurt the snake to remove it forcibly, and both spent over a week in intensive care, with the possibility of renal failure and death. Obviously more study is needed into the secret life of this fascinating snake. Thailand Snakes covers venomous and non-venomous snakes in Thailand and surrounding countries. Mostly see the bronzeback and golden tree snake here, they look pretty smart. A few months ago, we went out the back side of the house, (Pattaya) and the wife screamed, A snake bit our cat! Notes: These snakes can inflict a deadly bite when they are allowed to bite for longer than a couple of seconds. Daylight hours. 1)can escape very fast Have bookmarked for future reference. 4) can’t tolerate the smell of kerosene. Wicked strong. Here in Krabi, I have never seen one. hi vern, wow you have great web site here. The snake was captured in Thailand and, according to the magazine, has a body length of 12, 2 meters and a body weight of 220 kg. Officially known as Ahaetulla prasina, the typically all green coloured Oriental … This is a very common species in its geographic region, and is non-poisonous. Binomial name: Rhabdophis chrysargos, Hermann Schlegel, 1837. A rednecked keelback bite to the cat wouldn’t cause a reaction like that (foaming)… I don’t think. Deschauensee’s Keelback has a narrower dirty white or tan lip and initial eyestripe, belly typically covered in multiple rows of dots, and 115-141 subcaudals. I still haven’t seen a Banded Krait (B. fasciatus) in the wild. Yamakagashi (Rhabdophis tigrinus) antivenom. The power of the venom is comparable with a monocled cobra or a krait. Also I will leave the toads alone, and listen to the wife a little more. Please note that some of the species listed below may be extinct or no longer found in Thailand. Thailand Snakes covers venomous and non-venomous snakes in Thailand and surrounding countries. Oh have seen 1 water monitor on the same stretch of water. unfortunately snakes are killed here almost on site. i see many snakes of redneck which was commonly found in our place but its size was much more almost more than 3 mtrs i saw … so fast n active , beautiful , but very shy, here some body says its very venomous some are say no venom , many of localite are use to demo by keeping in there in bags an all… but never heard any bitten incident by this snake… plz tell me how venomous is this snake…, You don’t say where you are in the world. I knew the snake was a redneck, since they are almost the easiest snake to reconize, But I didnt know if it was venomous or not. I cannot find anything much about offspring. However, a bite by this snake on the mouth, introduces another variable… this snake has poison glands – Nuchal gland(s) on the top of the neck, and it’s possible your cat got some of the poison in its mouth I guess. If so, with sufficient time for some venom to spread within the mouth (do these snakes have saliva other than their venom? Conservation status and threats: It does not appear common in the wild but there are no known threats. Kingdom: Animalia These snakes wouldn’t bite much, they’d prefer to flee. Here is the description in a scientific journal about Kevin’s encounter. I didtnt have my snake catcher near by, so decided to kill it, then put the toad in a plastic bag, and dumped it in the neighbors yard!! I have not seen them eat anything but frogs and toads. I just watched one swim across a rockpool here in the Sai Kung country park (thus i am here now, on your website). Some snakes of this species, and others in the genus Rhabdophis, have displayed a rather unique defensive behavior of exposing the back of their neck and secreting poison from their nuchal glands. Thing is, they have a rather inefficient venom delivery system with small fangs in the rear of their small mouth. I thought it is non-venomous. Genus: Rhabdophis Likewise i have seen (and almost stepped on) bamboo (pit) vipers, banded krait (once only), many-banded kraits, Chinese cobras, rat snakes, Taiwan kukri snakes… Apparently, there are king cobras here too – but I’ve never seen one. There is a forum I know of, but not sure it comes up in Google searches. lots of venomous snakes in Thailand – please don’t pick up snakes you don’t know…, Hi Vern, Length: Up to 100 cm (1 meters). The Checkered Keelback is an Asian snake. Brown to yellowish-brown or olive-brown, with the top typically darker than the sides. I am not sure if this is strictly for R. subminiatus found in Japan, or not. Altogether the snake is present in many areas which start in Thailand through to Myamar, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia and China. It grows to 70 to 90 cm round=0.5 in total length (including tail). Didn’t know what kind of snake it was at the time (I’m from New Zealand, where there are no snakes) and was rather surprised to learn later that they’re so venomous. Khasi Hills Keelback has dark marks all the way on the end of the ventral scales so there is no white line separated from the belly color, and is only found in northern Thailand and beyond. Yep, those are super-hot snakes. That said, a good bite could kill your cat rather easily I’d think. really great work vern, gary. They would have come from the paddy fields, also been told of kraits ( yellow / black ) in / near the river about 100 metres at the rear of the house. In Thai: งูลายสาบจุดดำขาว, ngu lai saap jud damm khao. Serious complications resulted requiring hospitalization and intensive care. Saw loads approx 8 by the monkey swimming hole in Khoa sok Thailand this morning…we have been swimming in the river all week with our kids 2 & 8yrs old…only seen them today though…we are thinking the heavy rain last night might have flushed them out! I have a kitten that likes to run around in the garden so it worries me a bit to know this snake is around and i’ve seen it a couple times in the garden before. I called my local vet and she ordered an injection at the nearby pet clinic. Should have also examined the toad for bite marks, but he looked so peaceful. Please help us improving our species range maps. I will be trying to find some answers to these questions for a long time. Tel 0277 785193 Fax 0277 785520 Be very careful not be be bitten by these snakes. Must have been through the mouth. Lots of red-necked keelbacks here in Sai Kung district, Hong Kong. Deadly Thailand Snakes rear-fanged Snakebite – Red-Necked Keelback – Rhabdophis subminiatus Vern red neck keelback snake, red necked keelback, Rhabdophis subminiatus, Rhabdophis subminiatus antivenom, snake bite, thailand cautions, Thailand colubrid Red Necked Keelbacks are now considered quite dangerous and potentially deadly. This snake's eyes are rather small, and shorter than its distance from the nostril in the adult. There is no Rhabdobphis subminiatus (red-necked keelback) that is 3 meters long. Contribute or get help with ID. I hope you can supply some answers, this seems to be a weird situation, and internet doesnt help, every web site has different facts, and most get poison and venom mixed up. I directed it away with a stick, it slowly slipped away. Hard to say… that cat is licking something though, of THAT you can be assured… :). Worth a try though if you can get them to send you some antivenin. Have recently seen several snakes in our garden in North East Thailand.Looks very similar to European grass snake,grey brown with black flecks and a yellow collar round it’s neck.Any ideas as to what it is? Class: Reptilia Although I have seen a few moving very fast across the lawn, they mostly appear to be quite docile. The snake is rear-fanged, is not built for envenoming, it needs to bite for either a prolonged time, or repeatedly to work venom into a bite. The view is … Most of the time this snake tries to raise its head as much as possible and expand its neck skin mimicking a cobra hood and intimidate the threat. Family: Colubridae Would love your thoughts, please comment. Lifted up a stone slab, and there it was, coiled up, but the biggest surprise was a huge cane toad, sitting next to the redneck. Red Necked Keelback (Rhabdophis subminiature) flaring up it's neck to expose it's bright red color. No idea what the shot contained – if you can let me know, that would be great. This smale is really so good looking. Two days of rain has brought the snakes out. It was about 80-90cm. The cat ran and so did the snake, very fast in the grass and hard to spot. Offspring: I had a juvenile red-necked keelback I’ve taken photos and videos of and released into the wild. We just saw one too – a great specimen, no ticks or injuries to scales or tail. I have no idea what happened there.
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