Second on the stress eating, although mine tends to occur after dinner. Over a million users here say they 'feel at home' and 'finally found a place where people understand them'. TL;DR Anyone on on r/ADHD using lower doses (5-10mg) of Vyvanse or Adderall? It comes in both capsules and chewable tablets. It's no longer effective. No test can predict what dose will give a patient the optimal … Your mileage may vary, consult a physician, yada yada. I consult my physician, but like many of you probably have experienced, it's a bit like throwing darts at a dart board, blindfolded and with your hands tied behind your back - it's a bit tricky. I started taking vyvanse for ADD (impulsiveness and having a lot of trouble focusing) 5 years ago at the age of 10, for the first 2 years it worked great, it made it harder to sleep and I didn’t eat much but it made it a lot easier to focus which allowed me to get good grades and actually almost made me enjoy school, but I found over time these good effects … It's like I don't feel like I can go to bed but at the same time I'm not fully awake, I'm not awake enough to pay attention to a zoom class or whatever. If the objective is a therapeutic dose where you work well and have little to no side effects, then getting a euphoric "shove" from the meds is just not going to happen without side effects. Anyway every time I wake up I say this day will be different, ok now just let me get some food and watch a quick video then I'll start school, and next thing I know I've spent 7 hours drafting a facebook response to someone's 10 word post saying they hope kyle rittenhouse rots in jail for life, me explaining to them how Marxism works and how racism and the carceral system are really just tools of bourgeois oppression and our justice system is just a tool for the bourgeoisie to protect their production and property and vengefully punishing one individual will only further divide class solidarity and strengthen the bourgeoisie position. edit: I just remembered I actually have an appointment with my doctor for tomorrow (for neck pain of all things) so I will be sure to talk with her about it literally less than 24 hours from now. I should note ^^this pattern^^ was starting on the 30mg but it's gotten worse on the 40mg I think. But, it can be so darn subtle. I still kinda felt the impulses, kinda, but they were under the surface and I was able to control them aka not do them (whereas normally it just AUTOMATICALLY happens I don't think about it, you know how it is). But is this megaultrasupersizedhyperfocus wikipedia/fb post, yet unable to start/do literally any of my responsibilities that are at all stressful (dishes, school) stuff zombie mode??? Vyvanse is a stimulant that lasts 24 hours, so some people find it disrupts their sleep cycle, says Donaldson. The impulsivity improvement was gone. On 10-15mg of IR, I was able to be very active with work or organizing, but I seemed to "rage" a bit and would skip over some crucial details. It is so bad right now. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. For this reason, it is common for high-dose users to experience a greater number of side effects, as well as more severe side effects, than lower-dose users. However, it seems as if I’ve built up a tolerance faster with each increasing dose. Stimulants like Vyvanse can actually improve sleep quality. Getting it from caffeine or higher doses of Adderall just feels like I'm chasing a high that only ends up biting me in the end. But that was just gone, hallelujah! I've been able to go grocery shopping multiple times. I'm on 60mg now, and have been for the past 5 months, and I finally feel that I'm at a dosage that makes binge eating truly manageable (I no longer have any issues with ADD while the medication is working). You could call it a mania or even an OCD-like behavior, where I would hyper-focus on a task or event. It also has the stimulant amphetamine, but adds a compound called lysine. On 30mg, my anxiety seemed to be through the roof. Share on Pinterest Nervousness and difficulty sleeping are … You know how there's that ticker/bar at the bottom that shows scores/stats of other games? Started on 30 mg of Vyvanse 5 days ago, because Adderall caused anxiety and "zombie effect" at the same time. The hard part is getting that coverage later in the evening without being "on meds.". Or is it different I can't tell. The low-dose post: Any adults taking "extreme" low doses? Just be sure to do it slowly and give yourself time to adjust to each new level. You know fidgets, cracking knuckles, hugging myself/other stretches, tapping or rubbing hands/fingers, knee shaking etc. Dosage (High vs. Low): Individuals who use high doses of Vyvanse will end up with greater concentrations of dextroamphetamine altering functions within the brain and central nervous system. Even on 7.5-10mg, it would curb my appetite so much that I was always fighting the "I'm raging because I haven't eaten" feeling and feeling totally wrecked. Anyone with co-morbid anxiety/OCD showing improvement on lower doses? And mostly it's being unable to phrase what I want to say. When you first start taking Vyvanse, your doctor will likely prescribe the lowest possible dosage. You know how that goes. Lots of wheelspin, very susceptible to crashing, only really putting the power down in a higher gear. What is the typical dose that would be prescribed to someone taking Vyvanse? But then on the other hand I am in near total isolation, virtually not leaving my apartment at all, so I can't really tell. Control emotions. Overall, my anxiety and compulsiveness has been high throughout all these medications and yet I've experienced "therapeutic" effects at all doses and varying conditions. vyvanse. I've was on 5mg 2xday when I first started on Adderall IR. Well I watch every single game on gamepass throughout the following week, so if I look at the ticker it's a spoiler. Weekly threads to plan and notice the positive in our lives. For those of us (like myself) who may have OCD-like or anxiety related comorbidity, taking a stimulant like Adderall may only exacerbate some symptoms. My anxiety is a lot more manageable and the only symptom I've had is decreased appetite which is actually helpful since I tend to stress eat. But this time I just... like.... didn't hear the tv.... and was able to just like... have a conversation where I didn't miss anything the person said and I didn't have moments where I completely lost my train of thought halfway through a sentence because my brain switched to thinking about how weird the party names are in Luxembourg's parliament or something utterly non-useful like that. It worked well for me but I've been a lotttt better since I went on 10mg Adderall XR. No 'high' or 'buzz', ZERO MOTIVATION improvements. I started on 100 mg of the bupropion SR 12-hour (once daily, then increased to twice daily after 1 week) and 20 mg Vyvanse. My physical impulsivity/hyperness was improved. While Vyvanse offers dosing options from 10 mg to 70 mg, the recommended starting dose is 30 mg. I was able to have an hour long conversation while the tv was on in the same room and my brain just tuned it out, to the point where an hour went by before I saw the tv and noticed a different show was on. Maybe u are high on Vyvanse this was a loooot of words. 5mg Adderall? But in the meantime I still ask for any perspective from you guys who also have this stupid brain. The initial dose is typically 30 mg every morning for treatment of ADHD or binge eating disorder. It's time blindness fucking turned to the max. His doctor gives him 60-50mg capsuls and says to take 1-2 in the morning. I'll mention later that I've since wondered if this was just placebo, but I really don't think so because I think placebo would be the energy aspect, the "I'm taking an amphetamine" aspect, not aspects that are at the subconscious level like filtering out tv noise. I thought my Vyvanse dose was too low but now I think it may be too high? The quiet/calm was gone. The same paralysis I struggled with last semester w/ untreated adhd? For those wondering if they are on too high of a dose, there are a ton of great threads asking this very question. Wake up, rinse, repeat. Slight increase in heart rate. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. It was like I was taking sugar pills. I', on 60 mg of Focalin. It really varied. Not because it made me drowsy at all (it didn't, at all), but I had been running on very little sleep and the quiet/calm meant I could lay on a couch and be still and just.... like..... just fall asleep. So it took me like 6 weeks to finish the first rx cause I couldn't tell ANY difference in days I took it or didn't. A key example is watching a football game. Though after about 3.5 weeks I did think that there were some subtle effects going on, in terms of being less distractible, but the next week my dr agreed to go up to 40mg. Do I need to start at the lowest dose since I'm on such a high dose of focalin. I don't think it's affecting me emotionally at all but it's hard to tell. Vyvanse 10 mg is the lowest strength available for patients who may need flexible titration; Maximum dose: 70 mg per day; Capsules and chewable tablets are interchangeable on a unit per unit/mg per mg basis (eg, 30 mg capsule for 30 mg chewable tablet) Weirdly tho I've been able to keep up with showering, teeth brushing, shaving etc pretty well. Yesterday morning I even got a very random burst of energy and returned some library books that were 7 months past due and tried to get a haircut (found out you need an apt now cause of covid and they were booked for the day). So now I've been on 40mg for one week and I'm losing my mind lol. Common Questions and Answers about Vyvanse dosage too low. A few days ago one of my favorite podcasters whom I've followed closely for years died of cancer and I literally sobbed (my normal reaction). For the majority of my Vvyanse use, I was prescribed and taking 20mg in the morning, then 5 or 10mg of Adderall IR in the afternoon. A place where people with ADHD and their loved ones can interact with each other exchanging stories, struggles, and non-medication strategies. Did you ever try Vyvanse? Maybe I am in the camp that doesn't need that much ADHD medication. The problem is that I take my pill and I sit in front of my computer and I go on a wikipedia rabbit hole deep dives or social media post drafting (I'll explain) for 10 to 30 hours or so after which I bookmark all the remaining tabs (I'm up to 1658 so far) save my draft and go sleep. I compare it to the effects of having 1000hp in a car. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm considering Vyvanse twice a day, or take ~5mg IR in the morning and then 10mg Vyvanse later in the day - it seems to help curb compulsive eating without completely killing appetite. While high-dose stimulant use leads to tolerance, very low dose stimulant use leads to reverse tolerance, which can be permanent.. Tests in human subjects has shown that after been given a low dosage of Amphetamine, the subjective high rating from a large dose of Amphetamine has nearly doubled. edit: I will now proceed to reread this post of mine at least 8 times, making minor adjustments to wording but mostly just reading it from the perspective of a different reddit user coming across and reading it, you know that mandatory hypothetical conversation that we have on loop sometimes. Vyvanse is the quintessential example of a "pro-drug"—an inactive substance that becomes active only after it is absorbed and then metabolized in the … After doing some bro-math calculations (thanks to some smart people on r/ADHD), I decided 5mg of my IR would work substitute until I could get another Rx of Vyvanse 10mg. I asked to start on very low dose of the Vyvanse, since I have been sensitive to stimulants in the past. Normally I have the impulse to look at the ticker (at the bottom of the screen I'm watching the game on, ranging from couple inches on laptop to many inches on tv). Hey, my friend is on Vyvanse as well. When I watch youtube videos with a particularly good joke I laugh so hard that I snort. The quiet/calm was so significant that ~90 minutes after taking the pill I took a ~2 hour nap. Ya after those first couple days I read all about the pharmacokinetics, so I understand but it's just very frustrating. The maximum daily dose of Vyvanse for ADHD or binge eating disorder is 70 mg. Side effects. Best way I can describe how it felt is it half worked, but half didn't. I tried 5mg Adderall it didn't work on me, had to double up and take 10mg. There's a lot of disinformation about comparisons of Adderall and Vyvanse, the best answer being: There is no comparison. I've yet to try XR... How do you define mild panic attacks? I would not describe feeling like I had extra 'energy' whatsoever. Normally, you calculate the dosage based on the patient's body mass. edit: holy bologna it's been 16 minutes already since I posted this I swear I swear I swear it feels like 16 seconds. These things typically go out the window when I'm dealing with stress/depression, but they've been fine. Brief history: Started on 30mg Vyvanse, moved down to 10, then 20 - then switched to Ritalin 10mg (terrible come-downs), then Adderall IR 7.5 mg for the longest time. Brief history: Started on 30mg Vyvanse, moved down to 10, then 20 - then switched to Ritalin 10mg (terrible come-downs), then Adderall IR 7.5 mg for the longest time. Ease hyperactivity. This (according to my "Reddearch") shows that my dose has been too high. All of that was extremely reduced. I have been on a combination of bupropion (Wellbutrin) and Vyvanse since ~3/2015. INSANE. Asked 16 Jun 2013 by lucy_stella Updated 10 November 2013 Topics adderall, vyvanse, anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder. Addy and vyvanse used to be aweome for me, like hours of euphoria and interest in everything, now I just have energy but am filled with anxiety and feel like fuckin shit past the first like couple hours. In patients with severe renal impairment (GFR 15 to < 30 mL/min/1.73 m2), the maximum dose should not exceed 50 mg/day. If I need to study from 6pm - 9pm, I can't take Vyvanse at 6pm because I'll be up all night! Even after day one effects winded down (10.5-11 hrs) I was thinking I'd like a slightly higher dose, that it was just near what I wanted, I can't remember why but there was something specific. This is a genuine cry for help, things are slipping With positive effects as well, day one was best, day two was less significant but still good. Not The Whole Story. And then it *seemed* to just completely stop working starting day three. Maybe dose too high. My final semester in college could barely have gotten off to a worse start. Again, this is only in a short time-span of a few days! I've been prescribed vyvanse for about 2 months now and I started off with 20mg. My mind felt quiet, calm, and my thoughts were in my command - as in I could choose to press the gas pedal to go, vs normal where the gas pedal's glued to the floor and it's a ferrari engine with bicycle brakes. It's all so confusing. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That was such a low dose for me I didn't feel any difference until I reached 40mg. But since these affect the brain, they don't work that way. The increase in compulsiveness zero'ed out any gains in motivation. It is unbearable, absolutely irresistible, and so bad that it can happen literally dozens of times a game, almost constant when it's really bad. How can you tell if your Vyvanse or Concerta is working? OR I'm experiencing so much baseline anxiety and therefore am more sensitive to higher doses of stimulants. I had a lot of energy, and was really focused. No noticeable changes with starting/finishing tasks, but this was Christmas break visiting my parents so I didn't have any tasks to do. Side effects were ZERO appetite day one. So there is a dose-dependent effect of stimulants on arousal and sleepiness that is independent of whether or not you have ADHD. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Vyvanse is the brand name for lisdexamfetamine dimesylate. My impulsivity was improved. I'm amazed I put up with it for as long as I did. My doctor prescribed me 20mg Adderall IR twice a day. Lessened appetite day two - I could feel physical hunger in stomach but it was diminished/dampened and detached and there was no psychological drive connected to it. And then after a few seconds the impulse just disappeared, where normally if I am able to temporarily resist, the awareness of the impulse festers in the front of my mind and it takes so much effort to continue resisting that I then miss what's going on in the game cause I can't pay attention so I skip back to watch but pay attention, which thus means I forget I was resisting the impulse and then the impulse comes back and boom I've looked. Your doctor may periodically increase or decrease your dosage to help control ADHD symptoms and manage side effects. I'm nervous if I start low on Vyvanse I'll be in bad shape with a beginner's dose of Vyvanse. On 20, I could feel great - or I could feel zoned out. I still have mild panic attacks, but it's a lot easier to pull myself out of them and get my head on straight. And the sound was even on the whole time!! Also any advice on how to talk about this with my dr. Part of the problem with ADHD meds is that they don't work like normal meds. Prior to treating children, adolescents, and adults with CNS stimulants, including VYVANSE, assess for the presence of cardiac disease (e.g., a careful history, family history of sudden death or ventricular arrhythmia, and physical exam) [see Warnings and Precautions (5.2)]. I've discovered that at 5mg of Adderall (and 10mg of Vyvanse), I'm capable of having a normal appetite, so far have slept better, and my anxiety has been substantially reduced. Especially, the longer-acting types of ADD/ADHD drugs I wrote about last week. I don't think I've ever had a full-on attack, but then again how would I know? The right dose of the right ADHD medication can do a bunch of stuff: Boost focus. Could this be any more confusing??? Normally I would have to listen to the tv show while trying to listen and speak to the other person. After the third day I started to feel really tired, drowsy, and irritated with everything. As a subset of anxiety, compulsive behavior seemed to be increased with Adderall. Insane I know. Is this what zombie mode is? I did at the time describe it like it was the beginning of the rest of my life, but just because of the quiet/impulse/filter effects. Typing this as I took a 30mg vyvanse this morning (which isnt much) and was kickin ass cleanin that at some point just started to feel like shit. To convert from an Adderall dosage to the equivalent dose of Vyvanse, multiple your Adderall dose by 1.85 The calculation to arrive at these dose equivalences is actually fairly convoluted. 10mg XR = ~5mg of IR 2x a day, which is roughly what I'm going for. Please help if you've experienced too high/too low dose (I can't tell if I'm 'zombieing') or have tried multiple meds. In patients with end stage renal disease (ESRD, GFR < 15 mL/min/1.73 m2)… I don't know if it's still too low or if it's too high or if I need a different med completely, if the first two days were placebo, if it's any of those things but I also have depression, man I do not know. In general, Vyvanse is the better drug. For some reason, the best effects I had were when I was towards the "end" of my effective dose (4-6 hours in on some medications). The 60mg somehow made a huge difference. Adderall lasts 6 hours verses 10 hours for Vyvanse. But this is not the whole story. TLDR: The final paragraph really represents my current state of mind. Anger, rage, obsession - these are all emotions swirling around some centered event while on too high of a dose of Adderall. Vyvanse can be taken with or without food. 30 mg is a pretty low dose for Vyvanse, so you could try increasing the dosage to see if it lasts longer and works better. The recommended dosage typically can be anywhere from 30 mg to 70 mg per day for ADHD and 50 mg to 70 mg per day for binge eating disorder. The give is that push, the take (for me at least) is large increase in anxiety as well as an increase in compulsive behavior. Eating breakfast ~2hrs after pill was INCREDIBLY difficult. My focus/filter improved. He notices as well Vyvanse looses its magic, as do all amphetamines.You could ask your doctor to give you a higer dose, 50 … But same process, time blindness to the max until I hit physical exhaustion and go sleep, - which tbf (having to wait til physical exhaustion to sleep (because adhd mind won't let me fall asleep otherwise)) has been my normal pre-meds routine for a couple years but now it's more extreme cycles now (staying awake for much longer, length of sleep is same as my NORMAL though, unchanged, which of course means this puts me on an uneven cycle which makes it hard/impossible to do anything I need to do) cause I guess the vyvanse is keeping me awake BUT it's not giving me any energy??????? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. It works... but only really in theory. I think when one starts looking for motivation or "get off your ass and do shit" from any medication, it's going to be a give/take. Lots of different effects for different people, but I’m a fan, I’ve had many sleepless nights from taking Dex only, Vyvanse is a god send. Substance abuse refers to dangerous or harmful use of substances that affect the mind. 10mg Vyvanse? But I don't feel hyper at all so I don't know if this is overstimulation. For me, getting more sleep and working out gives me that push. The focus/filter was gone. Or not. I haven't attended my classes (even zoom) in 2 weeks or done a second of homework - I'm paralyzed against even logging into canvas or my email. Adderall: First dose on awakening; additional doses (1 or 2) at intervals of 4 to 6 hours. Will start on Vyvanse. I'm scared as hell to try my sample of Strattera after what I've read on here... No your feedback helps, thanks! Am I 'overfocused' by obsessing over a fb post for 7 hours even tho it takes me 7 hours to string together a half decent argument (brain fog?)? Also I would describe next to zero 'euphoria' or thought/feeling that I could 'do all the things' or anything like that. The first few days were really good. My problems with Adderall IR specifically: Anxiety levels that I just didn't realize I had until I switched back to Vyvanse 10mg for a day.
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